Martin Fischer
2018-08-10 09:56:19 UTC
1.) Check with https://www.ict-plus.ch
They have a lot experiences with Long reach wifi...
2.) why not just a standard USV? Solar or Wind buffered... or is a normal power supply only sometimes available?
FrÃŒndlechi GrÃŒess
Martin Fischer
They have a lot experiences with Long reach wifi...
2.) why not just a standard USV? Solar or Wind buffered... or is a normal power supply only sometimes available?
FrÃŒndlechi GrÃŒess
Martin Fischer
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 15:43:54 +0200
Subject: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
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Hey Swinog,
does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
by battery?
With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power
resource.
- What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you recommend?
- Are there any battery recommendations?
- Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s
connectivity?
Best,
Nico
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:58:41 +0200
Subject: Re: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
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As far as power goes, a solar system can help to keep it operational.
Message: 3
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 16:33:52 +0200
Subject: Re: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
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Hoi Nico
Mit einem P?rchen Antennen wie diesen an jedem Hop ist das sicher machbar.
https://mikrotik.com/product/RBLHG-5HPnD
Als Baterien kannst du z.B. 100AH Autobateriene einsetzen, damit bekommst du ?ber 70h Betriebsdauer mit zwei Antennen...
Du musst jedoch daf?r sorgen das du zwischen den Antennen freie Sicht hast, sonst wird das nicht wirklich funktionieren.
Wir haben vor vielen Jahren mal einen WiFi Link zwischen Otelfingen und Regensdorf ohne zwischenhop gemacht (~8km), das hat
mehrere Jahr stabil funktioniert. War jedoch anderes Equipment.
Gruss Matthias
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:50:18 +0200
Subject: [swinog] Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors?
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Hi Community
Anyone else experiencing high latency and packetloss towards
ch.archive.ubuntu.com / mirror.switch.ch
IPv4 via SwissIX.
IPv6 via HE.
--- frisal.switch.ch ping statistics ---
99 packets transmitted, 34 received, 65% packet loss, time 99279ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 425.674/601.445/705.015/62.817 ms
--- ch.archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics ---
21 packets transmitted, 7 received, 66% packet loss, time 20262ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 531.911/594.194/645.790/43.318 ms
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:03:11 +0200
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Am Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:59:47 +0200
^C
--- ch.archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 13293ms
Here it's worse for IPv6 :-)
IPv4 indeed is fine now.
https://www.woody.ch/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?filter=switch;target=World.Europe.Switzerland.Networks.Switch
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Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 15:43:54 +0200
Subject: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
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Hey Swinog,
does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
by battery?
With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power
resource.
- What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you recommend?
- Are there any battery recommendations?
- Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s
connectivity?
Best,
Nico
--
Your Swiss, Open Source and IPv6 Virtual Machine. Now on www.datacenterlight.ch.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:58:41 +0200
Subject: Re: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hey Swinog,
does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
by battery?
With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power
resource.
- What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you recommend?
- Are there any battery recommendations?
- Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s
connectivity?
Given big enough dishes and line of sight, this is achieveable. We had 40km links in rural areas of Iceland working. Its all a question of terrain, interfearance and right equipment.does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
by battery?
With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power
resource.
- What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you recommend?
- Are there any battery recommendations?
- Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s
connectivity?
As far as power goes, a solar system can help to keep it operational.
Best,
Nico
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Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 16:33:52 +0200
Subject: Re: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hoi Nico
Mit einem P?rchen Antennen wie diesen an jedem Hop ist das sicher machbar.
https://mikrotik.com/product/RBLHG-5HPnD
Als Baterien kannst du z.B. 100AH Autobateriene einsetzen, damit bekommst du ?ber 70h Betriebsdauer mit zwei Antennen...
Du musst jedoch daf?r sorgen das du zwischen den Antennen freie Sicht hast, sonst wird das nicht wirklich funktionieren.
Wir haben vor vielen Jahren mal einen WiFi Link zwischen Otelfingen und Regensdorf ohne zwischenhop gemacht (~8km), das hat
mehrere Jahr stabil funktioniert. War jedoch anderes Equipment.
Gruss Matthias
Hey Swinog,
does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
by battery?
With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power
resource.
- What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you recommend?
- Are there any battery recommendations?
- Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s
connectivity?
Best,
Nico
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--does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
by battery?
With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power
resource.
- What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you recommend?
- Are there any battery recommendations?
- Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s
connectivity?
Best,
Nico
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Badenerstrasse 569 Fax +41 44 271 3535 <sip:0442713535>
CH-8048 Z?rich http://www.iway.ch/
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:50:18 +0200
Subject: [swinog] Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi Community
Anyone else experiencing high latency and packetloss towards
ch.archive.ubuntu.com / mirror.switch.ch
IPv4 via SwissIX.
IPv6 via HE.
--- frisal.switch.ch ping statistics ---
99 packets transmitted, 34 received, 65% packet loss, time 99279ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 425.674/601.445/705.015/62.817 ms
--- ch.archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics ---
21 packets transmitted, 7 received, 66% packet loss, time 20262ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 531.911/594.194/645.790/43.318 ms
Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen
-Beno?t Panizzon-
--
I m p r o W a r e A G - Leiter Commerce Kunden
______________________________________________________
Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 00
CH-4133 Pratteln Fax +41 61 826 93 01
Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:03:11 +0200
Subject: Re: [swinog] Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Anyone else experiencing high latency and packetloss towards
ch.archive.ubuntu.com / mirror.switch.ch
https://www.switch.ch/network/operations/trouble-tickets/?action=show&id=1399ch.archive.ubuntu.com / mirror.switch.ch
Florian
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:08:44 +0200
Subject: Re: [swinog] Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors?
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Am Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:59:47 +0200
Update: Switch just changed something in their routing.
No packet loss anymore from both source networks.
PING ch.archive.ubuntu.com(frisal.switch.ch (2001:620:0:1002::20)) 56 data bytesNo packet loss anymore from both source networks.
^C
--- ch.archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 13293ms
Here it's worse for IPv6 :-)
IPv4 indeed is fine now.
https://www.woody.ch/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?filter=switch;target=World.Europe.Switzerland.Networks.Switch
Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen
-Beno?t Panizzon-
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